And then they start talking about the
forecast, the really heavy rains that were going to
come by 11,11:15 and we start talking about the
fact that post-season play is not about playing an
abbreviated game. I said neither manager wants
to lose a pitcher, and that was the extent of our
contribution to that. And then they came back a
little bit later and told us that it was going to be
A moment ago, you said in a casual
way about Leyland, "I love him to death." Ozzie
Guillen told me a couple of weeks ago, he
doesn't like a lot of managers, but he admires
Jim Leyland. What is it about Leyland that
appeals to guys in your line of work?
JOE TORRE: You know, he's a blue-collar
guy. He's honest. He's very good at what he does
and really down plays that part of it. I don't want to
say he's sly, but he's very bright and really comes
across as anybody can do, this what I do, and we
know better. And he's had success everywhere
he's gone. Again, he's not necessarily comfortable
in this environment. He'd much rather be doing
things, you know, out of the spotlight. But he's just
a real straight, straight shooter, I guess that's
Did you talk to Randy in Detroit?
JOE TORRE: I have not talked to Randy.
As I said to the local media that just came into my
office. I said nothing changed from yesterday
except the fact that Randy should be on the
ground by now.
But no, I haven't. I'm assuming
No, I understand that, but will he
watch the game on TV, will he work out at all?
JOE TORRE: Well, there's a good
question. I'm not sure that after yesterday he
would really do anything today anyway. I don't
even think he would play catch today.
If you look at the pitcher that Kenny
Rogers has been throughout his career, have
you given much thought why for the two years
that he was here, I know one part of it he was
injured, but why he underachieved while he
JOE TORRE: I think Kenny is a guy who
would much prefer to -- you know, a little bit like
Leyland in that respect, would just like to do what
he does without everything being under a
microscope. I just didn't think he was comfortable
I thought that he -- you know, obviously
he's a high-quality pitcher, he's proven that in a
number of places. But it just doesn't seem like he's
got his feet on the ground here. I know we've
talked quite a bit during that year because he, you
know, wasn't sure everybody wanted him here,
including me. And at the time I said it wasn't true,
and if it was true, it would having in to do with the
fact that we all wanted -- we all wanted him to do
I know he became very close with Andy
Pettitte, and Andy certainly has been here and
played here and pitched here really well. And it
was just I think a personality that he just wasn't
comfortable here. I can't find any other way to
describe it. And I can't tell you what he was like
over with the Mets, because he was there for a
period of time.
You how would you describe Jim's
managing once the game start, his strategy and
using his players that, type of thing?
JOE TORRE: He knows his players, I
think that's the most important thing. You
witnessed that the other night. He had straight
answers for you guys when he was questioned
about, did you leave Robertson in too long. When
you know your players, you may do things that are
going to be second-guessed, but you have a
reason for doing them, you're not just keeping your
fingers crossed. Certain people you trust in
situations, and that's what he's all about.
You know, he's certainly knowledgeable,
he's great at watching the game as far as when to
take chances; it did not surprise me. He tried to
hit-and-run with first and second with a ground ball
pitcher. He used to do the same thing to me when
Tewksbury was pitching, because when
Tewksbury was pitching, anywhere around the
plate, the guy could put the ball in play. But he's
probably right, Wanger probably through the pitch
of the night at that point in time.
He's a shoot-from-the-hip type of guy, but
still has the knowledge that goes along with it. It's
not strictly by, you know, by feel.
It's a little bit like you, but to have
been away from the game for so long and to be
so successful and to know his players so well,
how does a guy do that?
JOE TORRE: Well, when he's away from
the game, I don't think he ever stops managing.
You sit there and watch the game on TV, you're
probably in both dugouts at the same time and I
think that's probably what gave him the itch to
come back; plus working over there with Tony as
close as he did in St. Louis.
It never leaves you. Yeah, you need a
break from it once in awhile, there's no question.
But the fact of the matter is, you know, it's in your
blood and you're just going to have to deal with it
whether you like it or not. I asked him the other
day, with everything that's gone on lately, when
you have trouble winning ball games, do you still
enjoy yourself and he never even hesitated saying
how much fun it was for him.
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